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NEWSFLASH! Seduction mastery websites explode men's success with women!

10.08.2005

posted by Donovan at 7:24 PM

HOLLYWOOD, Calif. -- Across the nation and even the world, men in search of a way to attract beautiful women are discovering the secrets of seduction from master teachers, which lately have been popping up like wildflowers across the Internet. Some men are adopting the secrets, however many are still in the dark. Men who have used the materials have noticed a dramatic increase in their successes with the opposite sex. There are many impersonations, but there are a select few respectable teachers with your interests in mind.
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David Deangelo, founder of Double Your Dating, has been established for a few years, and provides among other things, DVD's, e-Books and audio CD's. His keystone product, "Double Your Dating: What Every Man Should Know About Women", has sold thousands of copies and continues to be the dominate force in the industry. Inside are over a hundred pages of in-depth "alpha-male" attributes and social programming methods to increase your overall self-esteem and success. (Double Your Dating Website)

Mystery, aka Eric, founder of The Mystery Method, is acclaimed as the "World's Most Famous Pick Up Artist", he has systematically created the means by which men can bypass the guards and social programming to attract any woman, any where, any time. He runs live ultra-exclusive workshops, but has just recently released DVD's, and a comprehensive e-Book. Mystery got alot of exposure after he was attributed to be the master teacher of "Style" aka Neil Strauss in his hit book "The Game". (The Mystery Method Website)

Thundercat, aka Joseph Matthews, is the author of a relatively brand new e-Book, in it's 2nd edition, called "Art of Approaching". He goes over, the initial approach and first interaction, in a detailed step-by-step, easy to learn guide. This is the most definitive resource for any man to attract women from the first approach. The e-Book contains over two hundred pages of jam-packed information all about approaching without fear of rejection. (Art of Approaching Website)

"With these guides, it makes it simple for a average looking chump like me, to be around and attract the most beautiful of all women," said Donovan a 23 year-old student from Newport Beach, Calif.

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Mystery on Incongruence

10.07.2005

posted by Donovan at 4:42 PM

Mystery

Mystery talking about solving incongruence, making other people's materials sound like your own. This is found at Mystery's website, along with some other gems. (website)

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Hello Gentlemen,
I'll give you the abridged version of me. I'm from Alberta, Canada and have read Style's extraordinary book.
NOW HERE COMES THE CONTROVERSY....
I have to regretfully inform many of the masters that there is little difference between any Pick-up methods - and that these methods (some of which are flawed and manipuative) closely parallel the training of animals.

I don't know if I'm the first to say this. But please let me explain.

Now I do agree that these methods have liberated some men from a life of fear of the opposite sex, having a theraputic effect and enriching the lives of many AFC's. Yet they have a striking resemblance to the very steps taken to gain the trust of a . . . HORSE!!! Now, I am not condoning mating a creature of the equine variety. I'd rather pick up women, but equestrians have been using these same techniques for decades, some of which date back as far as the first century. I see that this 'secret' society of PUA's also use similar techniques to lure women into trust.

For example, the Push-Pull technique is identical to a method used by horse trainers to spark the interest of a horse and create an environment wherein the horse feels safe, unthreatened by the human/predator.

I urge you not only to take my word for it but to research this topic for yourself. These techniques are used in therapeutic situations to help people heal themselves. Used in the wrong context, they could have harmful effects on the subjects these are used on as well as those that use them

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Mystery Method (2): The Approach

10.06.2005

posted by Donovan at 7:02 PM

UPDATE! Do you want to get Mystery to teach you every step of the way? Check out his DVD Home Course.

ATTRACT 1:
Opening
ATTRACT 2:
Female-to-male attract phase (often called "attracting")
ATTRACT 3:
Male-to-female attract phase (or "qualifying")
COMFORT 1:
Connection
COMFORT 3:
Intimacy
SEDUCTION 2:
Last-minute Resistance

In the first issue of the OAP, I gave an introduction to the Mystery Method and the M3 model. This model is at the core of most of what we do. To begin a sexual relationship with a women, you have to first ATTRACT her, then build COMFORT, and then finally SEDUCE her. Attract, Comfort, and Seduce are the three elements of the M3 model, and each of those is further divided into three phases. For example, the ATTRACT phase is divided into Attract 1 (or A1): Opening; Attract 2 (or A2) Attracting; and Attract 3 (or A3) Qualifying.

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What is opening? Essentially, it's the first 3-90 seconds of an interaction with a woman, whereby you begin a conversation. With opening, there is good news and bad news. The bad news is that opening can be very scary. Men are biologically predisposed to be incredibly nervous when starting a conversation with a woman that we don't know.

There are good evolutionary-biological reasons for this (in prehistoric times, approaching an unknown woman without permission or an introduction could lead to violent retaliation from her extended family), but that's probably not a lot of comfort. Nervous feelings that you get and the little voice that pops into your head creating excuses NOT to talk to that beautiful woman are NORMAL. You will need to learn to suppress them, but they are normal, and everyone -- even MM instructors -- have them.

Some more bad news. We not only need to open (suppressing our built-in emotions) but we have to open well. Opening poorly can doom the rest of your interaction with a woman (and any other women who see it) and make everything else you do a giant waste of time.

What's the good news? With practice, it's actually fairly easy. With some practice and some live examples and feedback from a trained instructor, anyone should be opening successfully, 99 times out of 100, after a couple weeks of work. Most experienced guys don't even think about opening anymore.

The following tips will get you started:

Have a canned opener ready -- This is NOT a night at the improv. Going "situational" (e.g., "it sure is crowded here" or "that's a nice purse") will rarely work. Think about it. If a 22 year old woman has been going out 1 night per week since she was 18, and gets approached 5 times in a night (and all of these numbers are major underestimations), she has been approached 1,000 times before you came along. Most of those 1,000 guys have tried something boring and situational. Use a canned opener -- something that has been repeatedly tested with women and is proven to work. If you don't have even one opener, I'd suggest Thundercat's tactical guide -- how to open. If you don't have this invaluable text, do yourself a favor and spend the $39.95 to get it and have your openers ready before you even go to the club, coffee shop, lounge, etc. He's another former Mystery Method student who knows his stuff.

3-2-1-GO -- The three-second rule was created for a reason. When you see a girl you like, GO. Open her group within three seconds. The failure to do this will "stale you out". Women like confidence. They don't like to be stalked. They like spontaneity. Wandering around circling her, looking at her, trying to figure out what to do next will turn her off and creep her out. Get into the habit of seeing a set and GO in. You've already got your opener ready, right?

Approach at an angle -- Do not walk straight up to the group. Approach at angle, tilt your head over your shoulders, and say your piece. Done correctly (and you almost need to see it to do it properly), you raise your value significantly by demonstrating that you do not need their attention or approval. Hang out with someone who knows what they are doing to teach this. If you don't know anyone, check out the Magic Bullet's ebook.

Smile on the approach --
Don't grin like a moron through the entire interaction, but smile as you walk to the set, and in the first few seconds of the opener. Smile with your eyes, not just your mouth. Smiles can be practiced in front of a mirror.

Be loud enough -- Everyone in the group should hear your opener. Your opener should be loud enough that it cuts across whatever conversations they are already having. Don't shout, but make it socially awkward for them not to pay attention to your opener.

Practice opening -- loudly -- from your chest, not your throat. If you put your hand on your chest, you should be able to talk in two ways: one in which you can feel the vibrations on your hand, and one where you can't. Train yourself to speak in the way where you can feel the vibrations.

Don't lean in -- This is connected to being loud enough. You should project your voice enough that they can hear you from a normal standing position (or leaning slightly back).

Engage the group -- Do NOT go into a group and talk to the woman you want to meet (the target). Engage the whole group. Pay LESS attention to the target.

Neg the target -- The hotter the girl, the quicker you have to neg. I've seen Mystery open with a neg, as well as negging the target within the first 10 seconds of his opener.

False time constraint -- This is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. Somewhere in the first 30 seconds you should drop in a phrase like "I can stay a second; I have my friends here". This will stop the group from feeling uncomfortable ("how long is this guy going to stay here") while also setting yourself up as a bit of a challenge, since if a woman is interested in you, she knows she'll have to do some work to keep your attention. Make sure you phrase it in positive terms. For example, consider the difference in what is communicated by "I have to go; my friends are here" compared to "I will only stay a second, then I'll leave you guys alone".

There. Do those things, and you should be able to get through A1 (the opener) easily, in almost any social situation.

Another crucial element of A1 is ending it. The opener should be something short, to grab the group's attention and be emotionally neutral. As soon as you spot an opportunity, you should shift into A2 (attract). We'll cover A2 in the next issue of the OAP.

For complete coverage of everything the Mystery Method can offer, download the Magic Bullets ebook

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Tips And Tricks From The "Dating Masters"

posted by Donovan at 12:29 PM

couple flirting seductionSo, let me ask you a quick question.

Who do you think is the world's BEST dating teacher?

No, I'm not talking about myself, but thanks for thinking so...

I think the answer might surprise you.

The worlds best dating teacher is a WOMAN.

But not just any woman.

I'm talking about a woman who is "attractive and she knows it".

You know the one.

I'm sure you've met her many times in your life.

You've probably had several "crushes" on her over the last several years.

And what did these "Super Babes" do when they realized that you "liked" them?

Exactly.

They did things that made your crush even MORE INTENSE... while at the same time NOT RETURNING the same level of interest.

I'm going to suggest to you that we can BOTH learn a lot about dating by paying attention to what BEAUTIFUL WOMEN do when a man shows interest.

Stay with me. This is about to get FASCINATING.

A few years back, a couple of women got together and wrote a book called "The Rules".
You've probably heard of it.

It's the notorious book for women about how to get a man to commit to you and ultimately marry you.

It's quite a book. You should read it.

In this book, the authors suggest all kinds of "unorthodox" techniques, like not calling men and rarely returning their calls, never approaching men, and generally playing "hard to get".

Why did this book and other sequel books go on to sell MILLIONS of copies?

RIGHT! Because the techniques WORK to attract men and get them HOOKED.

More on this particular topic later.


AN INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE


I want to ask you to think about something for a minute.

Have you ever been dating a girl, and had her do something that made you feel nervous, jealous, insecure, or otherwise emotionally FREAKED?

Maybe you were out with her, and she started talking to another guy... and while she was talking to him you could tell that she was enjoying herself just a little bit too much.

Know what that feels like?

You WANT to believe that it's all in your imagination... and that she's just having a
friendly conversation with someone... but your GUT IS TWISTING while you watch it happening.

Or maybe you have plans with a woman, but at the last minute (or even after the last minute) she calls and says "I don't think I'm going to be able to make it tonight... I had something come up... OK, I'll call you later".

She doesn't say exactly WHAT came up, or WHY she can't make it, or WHY she chose to call you thirty seconds before she was supposed to actually arrive at your house.

And the worst part is that you say back to her, "Oh, don't worry about it, it's OK", and then KICK YOURSELF afterwards...

Ever been there?

Or here's one of my PERSONAL favorites...

You meet a girl, call her on the phone and talk to her, and everything seems to be going GREAT.

She tells you to call her later in the week and maybe she'll be available.

You think about her for the next three days... but when you try to call her, she never answers the phone... and never returns any of your calls.

Yeah, it sucks.

All of these types of situations SUCK.

But the reality is that they all happen to most guys A LOT.


THE FASCINATING PART

Now I want to explain why I gave these particular examples.

I want you to stop for a minute and think about something.

I want you to ask yourself the following question, then answer it HONESTLY:

DID THESE THINGS MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT AND WANT THE WOMAN WHO DID THEM MORE OR LESS?

Be honest now.

If you're like most guys, then these particular things and others like them, made you think about the girl MORE.

They made you wonder what she was doing and what her INTENTIONS were.

And most of all, they made you WANT HER even more.

Strange as it may seem, these things, which SHOULD make you RUN AWAY, actually make you WANT HER.

What's the deal?

Well, just like WOMEN aren't logical, MEN aren't logical either.

And if you're honest about it, you'll admit that you sometimes respond in STRANGE AND UNUSUAL WAYS to a woman's flighty and manipulative behaviors.

Some of these types of crazy things that women do drive men WILD with desire and even jealousy... and often lead to OBSESSION.

It's a crazy world, huh?


WHY I'M TELLING YOU ALL THIS


I say these things not because I want to piss you off.

No.

I say them because I want you to start thinking about these types of things in a DIFFERENT WAY.

I want you to realize that the simple fact that a particular woman that you're interested in doesn't NEED you... and does things that clearly demonstrate it... often make her even MORE ATTRACTIVE to you.

Well guess what?

THE SAME GOES when it comes to making WOMEN feel ATTRACTION for YOU.

In other words, instead of getting UPSET with women for doing these things, LEARN FROM THEM.

And then use what you learn to create that magical emotion called ATTRACTION inside of women you're interested in.


IS THIS MANIPULATION?


I can hear it now.

The first response I often hear when I start talking this way, and recommending that men use what they learn to actually CAUSE women to feel ATTRACTION, usually goes something like this:

"But David, if I consciously do things to make women feel attracted to me, aren't I manipulating them?"

Most of us guys want to be "good guys".

We don't like to lie, cheat, and steal.

And we don't like to do sneaky things that don't FEEL RIGHT.

I get it.

But here's the BIG DIFFERENCE.

When I recommend a technique, for instance:

"Don't act like a Wussy."

"Give her the gift of missing you."

"Tease and bust her balls."

"Date other women."

"You be the one to end calls, dates, and other interactions... and do it a little too soon... on an up note."

...I'm NOT recommending that you do secret, deceptive things to "trick her into liking you".

NOOOOOO.

Instead, I'm teaching you the principals of ATTRACTION.

I'm teaching you examples of things to do that communicate a FAR MORE IMPORTANT IDEA...

THAT YOU'RE NOT A NEEDY WUSS.

The more you actually DO these things, the more you begin to "get it", and become the type of guy that women are naturally drawn to.


BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED


At the beginning of this newsletter I told you that an ATTRACTIVE WOMAN is the best dating
teacher there is...because she does things that ALMOST NATURALLY AMPLIFY the ATTRACTION that men feel for her.

One of the KEYS to this natural ability is communicating that she doesn't NEED the particular
guy that she's with.

When she does these little things to communicate that she doesn't NEED a particular
guy, those things tend to AMPLIFY the ATTRACTION that the guy feels.

We've all had it happen to us many times, so I know that you know exactly what I'm talking about.

So from now on, instead of getting UPSET at women for calling at the last minute to cancel
plans, getting annoyed when they talk to other guys, etc., LEARN FROM IT.

Use it to understand how YOU should approach an ATTRACTIVE WOMAN... and how to behave so that YOU are the one who creates and amplifies the attraction in HER.

And if you haven't downloaded your copy of my online eBook "Double Your Dating", then you need to do that now. It's now available for a FREE 7DAY TRIAL, so go get it. It's here: Double Your Dating e-Book
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Do you let your stream run dry?

10.05.2005

posted by Donovan at 4:01 PM

Have you noticed a dry river bank that has no water? The problem is the source did keep it flowing.

Never let your source run dry

I have noticed if I'm seeing one woman I like, I'll tend to stop approaching women as much as I normally would.
What usually happens is you get a TONNE of phone numbers, and contact information from a weekend, or a few weeks worth. Then eventually you find a woman that you like. So you slow things down because you spend more time with her, this is before you're exclusively dating her. You think she's the "one", and so you don't approach as many women as you did before. Then before you know it, you've grown tired of her, or she of you, and before its a proper relationship, you break it off.This is damaging for a good reason. Now your stream of available women has dried up. You no longer have a running supply of women to call for a date. So you get alittle down on yourself, and have to get your confidence back up to the way it was before you started dating her.

There are a few problems with this...
  • You'll lose your skill
  • You'll become more attached to the one woman (Can be a good thing)
  • When/if you break up or stop seeing the woman, you'll have far less options
I believe that's natural to become more attached to a woman the more you see her and the more you both "click". But I also believe that you don't know to a certain degree what the future holds. It's better to keep the source flowing... so if/when you stop seeing that special woman, you have options.

So never stop approaching, getting numbers, etc. This will help you to keep your hard earned skills perfected, and allow you to have many more options if/when you break it off with the special woman.
Some great sources for you to learn more about approaching are found in Thundercat's, "Art of Approaching", also for the dating game, try David Deangelo's "Double Your Dating"
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Extremely Dangerous Knowledge by Neil Strauss

10.04.2005

posted by Donovan at 10:22 PM

Sep 01 '05 Esquire Magazine

Esquire Magazine Article by Neil Strauss

I have a subscription to Esquire magazine, and was reading casually when I noticed an article "Extremely Dangerous Knowledge" by Neil Strauss. I was excited! It was like a friends article in a strange magazine. Anyways, if you want to read the article, you'll have to backorder, but here's the part that's free on access at Esquire.com
"WHEN IT COMES TO MEETING and attracting women, many men are resigned and complacent. We figure some guys were born with that particular power and other guys weren't. I wasn't. So, to compensate, I did something so embarrassing, I didn't even admit it to my friends: I embarked on a two-year course of rigorous study and training on the subject of women for my new book, The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists . Guided by men who claimed to be the world's greatest seducers (men known by names such as Mystery, Toecutter, Sin, and Juggler), I plunged into an international under-ground seduction community and approached more than a thousand women around the world. In the end, I was transformed from student of seduction to reluctant guru. I offer you now something I never thought I'd be able to provide: a step-by-step primer on attracting women, compiled from the collective knowledge of the world's greatest ladies' men.

STEP 1 APPROACH This is the scariest step. You're going to fail before you succeed. And the failure will come because you broke at least one of these rules. Seven Rules for Approaching Women..."
Most of the material written about can be found in the Mystery Method's new e-Book.

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Can you tell if a woman is attracted to you?

posted by Donovan at 5:53 PM

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That is the question I first wanted to know when I was being introduced to women during my teens. Many people gave me hints like, "If she curls her fingers through her hair" or "If she winks at you, thats a great sign that she could possibly like you."
We'll I have some news that I've recently discovered thanks to some help.... IF SHE'S TALKING TO YOU, SHE LIKES YOU.
Sounds bold doesn't it?
We'll its true. I have found when a woman wants to hang around you, or talks to you there's a better than 70% chance that she likes you enough to go out, kiss, etc.
When you get your inner game in the right place, you start to think most women like you. This in it's self creates an attractive effect, in that the reason she likes you, is because you think she likes you. Very strange to realize... but it works. "Believing is seeing!"
Try saying to yourself that "Women like me", "Women love to be around me" whenever you have a doubt entering your mind.
I can tell within minutes now if a woman likes me. I never noticed the subtlities of women's body language, until I read the Double Your Dating e-Book. Once I did that, it all came together for me, and I've met a girl that's amazing. (I believe the e-Book is only like $19, its brilliant, and packed with useful info for getting better with women and becoming a "natural")
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Do you have these qualities which women find irresistable?

10.02.2005

posted by Donovan at 9:53 AM

Attract any woman, date any model, supermodel, with these attributes, character
I sat in my living room contemplating all the programs, DVDs, books, e-Books, and forum threads I have seen, what a woman really looks for in a man. What a baffling concept, although...
I have come up with this list of the most important you can have...
  • Confidence (Lack of insecurity)
  • Positive attitude (Never negative)
  • Charismatic (Getting along with people, you're usually the center of attention, but not because you need it)
  • Arrogant Humor (Being alittle full of yourself, but not over the top)
  • Indifference to her (Not clinging to her every word)
  • Strong Opinions (Not enough that you make her feel stupid for her's)
  • Pop Culture Aware (Knowing what is going on in the world, and making fun)
  • Fun (Doing things that usual men do not. Eg. snowboard, bike)
  • Busy (Always having something better going on in your life)
  • Moral codes (Having ethics about various good practices, eg. do unto others)
  • Non-confrontational and non-violent (But can defend yourself when needed)

These are just a few of the attributes I feel women are attracted to. You need to develop them one at a time. It's a long process, but the sooner you get started the sooner you'll acquire them. You'll need to work on your inner self, before you can ever hope for any sort of attraction with a quality woman. No pickup lines will do.

An e-Book that helped me out with my inner game and acquiring these attributes, was Double Your Dating. It's now heavily discounted to $19.97. Click here to download.

Which is ridicilous, its a dinner and movie.... and it can seriously change your life, and your interactions with women, almost immediately. I recommend downloading it, even if not to keep, there is a 30-day money-back guarantee, so there's 0% risk.

Anyways, there are a tonne of other great books out there. Charisma, is a good one, also Mastery by George Leonard.

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Your site is great.

I couldn't agree more - David D's stuff is great. I've never understood the criticism about his "technique," as it seems he really advocates guys to avoid canned routines and find their own style.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, I'm impressed. You listed everything I look for in a guy. If every man understood what women find atractive this world would be such a wonderful place.

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