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I have her number... where should we go on a date?

10.15.2005

posted by Donovan at 7:13 AM

You've gotten her number, and you've set up a time. Congratulations, you are better than half the men out there! (If you need help getting numbers fast, check out Art of Approaching by Joseph Matthews.)

You need some first date ideas that will truly blow her mind!

Think of ideas of dates, get things rollingThe problem is, you don't want to go on an expensive date, or a "cheap" date that's unoriginal. So let's go through what a typical man will do.... Take her to a dinner and movie. That's good, that will show her that you're like every other male out there, trying to get into her pants for $30.

So what should you do?

I will assume that you already know this girl to some degree. This should probably be a second date. The first date, should only last for about 30 minutes to an hour, and be at a small coffee shop that YOU picked out. The reason for this is you're a busy guy and you don't have the time to be taking out every girl you meet to expensive, or long dates. (For my post on asking women on dates properly click here) You need to get to know her for something other than her looks first. So the first screener date should be the first meeting after getting her number. That gives you the opportunity to act relaxed, be easy going, and present yourself in a confident manner, and leave the date FIRST (eg. I've got to get running now.)

So, onto the second meeting...

Here are some great examples of quality, inexpensive dates (The goal is to get to know them, and then seduce them when they're comfortable):
  • Go for a walk in a fashion district, or scenic area. Afterwards, say, "Do you want to go back to my place and watch a movie." Most women say yes, if you've prepared properly.
  • Local fairs or fetes. This is always good, because you can make fun of the carnies, and play some fun games.
  • A short play or musical recitial. Many colleges have recitials and short plays that are very cheap to attend. The goal is to have something to go to, and then after grab something small and get back to you're place.
  • Snowboarding, surfing, jogging, wakeboarding, boating, riding a bike. Try some of these activities with a woman, get her out of her comfort zone, its gold! She will feel more attached to you, as you teach her the ropes of the sport.
  • Visit a day spa, massage palour. Get a massage, then grab a bite to eat, go back for a movie at your house.
The goal of the dates is seduction. So basically, whatever activity you have, you need to get her to feel somewhat out of her element, although comfortable because she's with you. Coming back to your place so you can be alone and in an environment that is conductive to seduction is the key here guys.

You need something else for your dating life. A great online guide more expansive than Art of Approaching, especially with dating and fixing you're dating life issues, is Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo. I love it, and it's only $19.97, I paid about double that one year ago, and it's in its 2nd edition now. Find out more here.

Till next time,

Your friend,

Donovan
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Anonymous Dave said...

Nice, I like the one about the day spa, im gonna take this girl to one near me

9:24 AM, October 16, 2005  

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How you can start BEING successful with women

10.14.2005

posted by Donovan at 3:36 PM

start being more successful with women
I was emailed this question, from a man in Texas. "How did you start to become more successful with women, and how can I get started?"
My simple answer.... an e-book started my journey.
Do e-books help you attract women, do they really provide that much help to you? Do they help you succeed?
My answer, is YES and NO... (sorry)
I was in a similar predictament as this man from Texas. About a year ago, I was searching through Google, newsgroups, and forums for some relief to the pain I had when it came to attracting women. I always wondered why some men had beautiful women hanging off them and others that were more handsome didn't.
This really perplexed me, as I'm the type of person that wants to understand, so I can have the advantage. :) And thus, my journey started...
So much information, where do I begin?!
The problem in searching Google for some indexed, complied ready-to-go information for seducing women in one place, is the shear volume that's out there. This is the amount of unorganized information on this topic:
"How to seduce women" 2,480,000 results
"Approaching women" 10,600,000 results
"Dating women help" 18,400,000 results
"How to be more attractive" 78,700,000 results
"Understanding women" 88,800,000 results
That is a whole lot of information to process, and you really don't know whether the stuff will work. So I started searching for some quasi-professional help. I started looking into some popular e-books.
I read an e-book called "Without Embrassment". I was impressed, but something seemed to me to be missing that clicked with me.
My search continued...
I eventually found a site called Double Your Dating. The author was called David DeAngelo. I thought the named sounded very cheesy, and I had the stereotype of a grease ball Italian guy trying to sell me his pickup lines. I clicked on the link I found. I subscribed to the weekly newsletter, and found his techniques very disrespectful of what I had always thought was proper towards women, but something inside me "clicked." It intrigued me. I read the e-book and was not totally convinced.
I tried the techniques, like the "Kiss Test" which I received on the first page of the website, totally free. Not only did it work, but the woman was so suprised. She then tried to take the kissing further, it had been the first a woman had ever done that to me. Anyways, that was one year ago. I know so much more about attracting and reading body language signals from women than I ever did before.
I have alot more self-confidence and self-esteem than I used to. I have a current girlfriend that is amazing in everyway. E-books honestly helped me to become this person. I say helped because it is you, you have to do the work. They work.
My picks...
Throughout all my searching on the net, I found a few good ones, that I strongly recommend to my readers when they contact me.
My first pick is Double Your Dating: What Every Man Should Know About How To Be Successful With Women. I pick this e-book because to me it encompasses the perfect groundwork you need to start turning your dating life around. When people ask me, "What got you started?" or "What can I do to quickly turn my life around?" I recommend this e-book. Why? Because it worked for me.
It doesn't provide cheesy pickup lines, and it gives you visual techniques to help your self-esteem. It provides bucket loads of techniques for attracting women, mistakes that you make, how to correct them, and how to move yourself into the frame of mind so that you wont have any confidence problems around women.
My second pick is The Art of Approaching. I only heard about this e-book about 5 months ago. I past along side it, and didn't consider it to be of worth. That was a mistake. This is crammed to the rim with everything that any healthy male would need to know about approaching that beautiful woman across the bar or coffee shop without fear of rejection. It's truly a masterpiece. Thundercat aka Joseph Matthews did a brilliant job on this book. It contains such ideas as approaching groups, using opinion openers, and everything else that just makes it sooo easy to get numbers, and get dates. I'm currently re-reading this, as this is a part of my dating life I want some further specialized information in.
My third and last pick is The Mystery Method Handbook. This system is unbelievable. It has transformed my life. I'm learning the in and outs of the MM model, and applying natural game to it.
This is an update, I have found a full solution to my issues and future in the game with Stephen Nash. I have done lots of soul searching and feel that this is the most complete solution for men out there. I met Stephen and have had personal one-on-one coaching with him. A genius - truly.

This was my journey. There is so much to learn, and I'm glad I have this blog. So I can help those guys looking to change their lives for the better, alittle easier.
Till next time,
Donovan

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Anonymous Dan Bolla said...

your blog is great keep it up

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Your Seduction Style

10.13.2005

posted by Donovan at 9:30 PM

Awesome! I didn't know I was that much of a natural... but this a quick fun thing at blogthings.com/seducerquiz/ if you want to be a different type... try some of the recommended readings to the left. :)


Your Seduction Style: The Natural



You don't really try to seduce people... it just seems to happen. Fun loving and free spirited, you bring out the inner child in people. You are spontaneous, sincere, and unpretentious - a hard combo to find! People drop their guard around you, and find themselves falling fast.


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The Pickup Artist Phenomenon: Is Romance Dead?

posted by Donovan at 5:34 PM

SPARKS, Nev., Oct. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- In the old days, getting luck was enough. You see someone you like and shyly conjure enough courage to talk to her or ask her out. If you were lucky she would say "yes" and if you were really lucky you could maybe get some action later. Gone are the old days!!! In current times luck is not a factor all that matters is game. The power
does not lie solely with the girl. The power lies with the skills the man possesses.
So says a new generation of men who refer to themselves as Pickup Artists (PUA), Pickup Gurus (PUG), and Players. Who are these guys? They're your brother, your friend, the computer geek, and the accountant.
They're the guys that you see hanging out around the clubs, the bars or even the malls. They're the everyday guys that you would least expect. Many start out as low self-esteem guys that never had their pick of the ladies but have now decided to do something about it.
Enter books like "The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists," by Neil Strauss (ReganBooks), and "The System: How to Get Laid Today!," by Roy Valentine (Eye Contact Media). These are the two current bestsellers on how to become a Pickup Artist.
In "The Game," Strauss (a rock/culture critic) transforms himself from an average guy to pickup guru (aka Style). He achieves this transformation by learning from and emulating the best pickup artists he could find in a community created by Ross Jeffries, an expert on Neurolinguistic Programming (NLP) - a mind-control technique. One of Style's main mentors was Mystery, a suicidal PUA that uses magic and various attention-getting techniques to
seduce girls.
"The System" takes a different approach. Valentine, a technology and business expert, personally developed and tested his system in "over 20 countries on 5 continents." "The System" is based on reading and understanding women's body language to determine their level of interest and acceptance during the entire seduction phase (from introduction to having sex). He also uses a Rapid Implementation approach, a process used by corporations "to do something in the fastest and most effective way possible."
Valentine's book is what the PUA community calls "a seduction guide." It's the specific steps required to go out, meet and pick up girls. The community refers to Strauss's book as "a tale of the community and should not be seen as a pick-up guide."
With this new trend in the way men think about and approach women and dating with "What's next? Is romance dead?" "No," says Valentine. "It's human nature. Love will always trump the end game."

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Could you get the girl of your DREAMS?

posted by Donovan at 12:04 AM

Hi,

I was talking to my friend, Matthew Whiting the other day, and was shocked by what he told me…

Over 99% of all men use ineffective methods to approach and seduce women. The methods most men use actually INHIBIT their ability to seduce women! Most men don’t have a clue what it takes to interact and seduce a woman. Small wonder so many are frustrated at their lack of success! They don’t know what women want.

Matthew Whiting and Sarah Paul are the online authors of the hugely popular How to be Irresistible to Women. Their book reveals all the necessary proven tips and techniques for approaching that gorgeous woman you are interested in, and keeping them interested long enough to get to know you.

Matthew and Sarah lead the hapless male thorough the mine field that is dating, and equip them with the necessary knowledge and skills to navigate their way through life, but now with a pretty girl on their arm and a smile on their face!

They cover areas such as:

* Huge mistakes that men make
* What women want most
* How to approach women
* Self confidence
* Dressing to impress
* Extraordinary kissing

And much, much more.

Every guy who has despaired at their lack of success has always wondered where they have gone wrong. Most men don’t have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes, because they don’t know where they have jeopardized their chances. Girls simply stop calling or answering their messages and the guys are back at square one, wondering how it could have been…

Matthew and Sarah identify where you may have jeopardized your chances with your dream girl, and identifies areas where you can make more effort. Girls still like to be romanced, and Matthew and Sarah show you how.

I truly believe this is one of the most informative books on the market because it shows men how to tantalize and seduce women without being pushy or sleazy. It’s a comfort to women to know that there are books on the market such as this. The benefit of having a male and female author writing this is that you get a unique and refreshing perspective on the dating dilemma.

This package is one of the most comprehensive that I have ever seen. In addition to the book, you get 5 bonus e-books, 2 bonus audio packages, and free email consultations. That’s a lot of value for money.

But don’t take my word for it, see it for yourself! Thank goodness so many men haven’t a clue what women want, because it makes it easier for men like you to seduce them. Get a head start on the competition and have a look at the book now!

Take a look at:

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I promise you won’t be disappointed!

All the best,

Donovan
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The Secret To Getting Women To Approach YOU!

10.12.2005

posted by Donovan at 12:47 PM

I think you're really going to like this article, because I'm going to share a little trick with you that I've developed that really makes it easy to meet a woman.

Too often, guys are simply too nervous to approach a girl because of the extreme amount of uncertainty involved.

Think about it. What runs through your head when you want to meet a woman?

  • "Am I her type?"
  • "Does she have a boyfriend?"
  • "Will she find me attractive?"
  • "Maybe she's too busy to meet anyone."
  • "Will she be receptive to me talking to her?"

I'm sure you can think of a 100 more things that run through your mind when you see an approach opportunity come your way.

If you get scared or nervous when this happens, it's because of one thing:

UNCERTAINTY.

You don't know how the girl you want to approach is going to respond! So your scared because the outcome MIGHT be negative!

Well, worry about this no more, because with this little trick I'm going to share with you, you'll never have to worry about a negative reaction again.

This little trick is so simple, ANYONE can do it! And it's a 100% fear free tactic.

Ready for it? Good, because here it comes...

***The Eye Contact Opener***

We all know that eye contact is important, but something funny happens when we make eye contact with another person. We become COMPELLED to respond to them in some fashion. When it comes to women, you can use eye contact to find out if she's open to meeting you. In fact, in a way, she'll be opening YOU!

So here's what you do...

The next time you see a woman you want to meet, LOCK your eyes on her! Seriously, just stare at her eyes, even if she's not looking at you.

When people are out and about, they will usually look around to keep aware of their surroundings. This is an unconscious thing weall do. Eventually, the woman you're locking onto will look around to scan the area.

When she comes to you, her eyes will invariably meet yours, and you'll be locked in eye contact.

When that happens, simply SMILE at her.

If she smiles back, guess what? She's OPEN TO YOU MEETING HER. If she doesn't, then move on to someone who is.

And when she does smile back, say "Hi!" And if she responds, you're in! Go right into your opener.

I like to use this tactic in low-key situations, like grocery stores, coffee shops, book stores, etc. Even though it can work just as well in bars (as long as the light is high enough that she can actually SEE you!).

Often times, after you smile, the girl herself will say "Hi!" and then the rest is easy.

The next time you go out, do this to every woman you see. Lock your eyes onto them and see what happens. I guarantee you, you'll be surprised by the results.

And if you're looking for even more tactics and techniques that are proven to work to help you meet tons of women, check out my book The Art of Approaching! There is no other book out there that focuses on nothing BUT how to overcome your fears and meet women. Check it out right now by clicking below:

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With the help of my book, you won't have to use the Eye Contact Opener! You'll simply be able to walk up to any woman you want and meet her right away.

Wishing you success with women,

Thundercat

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How To Meet A Woman When She's With Her Friends

10.09.2005

posted by Donovan at 8:04 PM

Take heart, Frustrated Student, class is in session!

I, and many other men, have been in similar situations many, many times.

Let me make one thing clear right now that you must understand before you go out trying to meet women:

WOMEN OF BEAUTY ARE NEVER ALONE!!!!!

You heard me right. Pretty girls have a very high social status. They are almost always surrounded by people, be they girlfriends, boyfriends, male "nice guy" friends, brothers, sisters, parents - whatever! They will always be in groups of people.

It is very rare to see beautiful women alone. And when they are alone, they're usually waiting for someone!

The common term I refer to people who like to hang around with beautiful women is: OBSTACLES.

If you imagine you're on a race track, and at the end of the track is this girl you want to meet, all the rocks, hurdles, holes, and booby traps between you and her are OBSTACLES that can ruin your chances of meeting her.

But there is a way to navigate that minefield and avoid all these obstacles! That way is called:

GROUP THEORY.

Attract women in groups!


Group theory is a system by which you actually address the girl's friends instead of trying to ignore them. Through group theory, you win over the girls peer group and turn them into YOUR support group.

Here's how it works...

The girl you want to meet is always with her friend, right? And you're worried that you can't approach the girl you like because the friend will interfere in some way.

So what you do is forget about the girl you like, and approach her friend first!

That's right...

YOU FORGET ABOUT THE GIRL YOU LIKE AND APPROACH HER FRIEND FIRST!

Now, this doesn't mean you're going to try and pick-up the obstacle instead of the girl you really like. It just means you're going to overcome that obstacle before you reach for your prize!

Remember: You must disarm a land mine before you step on it!

You do this by acting disinterested in the girl you're really interested in, and focus on winning over the girl you don't really care for!

Then, once you've won over the obstacle, you ask if you can"borrow" her friend for a minute because you've been neglecting her. Once her friend gives you approval to talk to her alone, guess what? You've just gotten her STAMP of approval!

This means that the girl you like has no reason NOT to talk to you!

Then, you pull her off to the side, and work your magic one-on-one.

I talk more about group theory and various other tactics on meeting women in my book The Art Of Approaching: How To Meet Any Woman, Any Time, Anywhere You May Be! In it, I go in-depth on how to meet women and overcome any and all obstacles that may be in your path. If you want to have the skills to meet beautiful women no matter what, click below now:

Art of Approaching Website Link

Don't wait. If you never get conrtol over this aspect of your life, you will be DOOMED to a life of quiet desperation, seeing opportunity after opportunity with women you like pass you by!

To your success,

Joseph
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