eHarmony Review
12.14.2006
posted by Donovan at 11:33 AMWell, Thundercat posted an article on his blog about eHarmony. From what he was saying, it sounds like the worst site on the Internet. Not only is it a waste of time (literally - time consuming to setup an account), but it also seems like there's nothing but freak show, desperate women on there. AFC's we need you, go over to this site, eHarmony and do some charity work.
In the end, Thundercat ended up saying:
"Over all, I’d say that eHarmony is one of the WORST dating sites for guys out there. Personally, I think that company is kept afloat by a gaggle of desperate, ugly women who struck out on all the other dating sites out there. If you’re looking to get some quality results with online dating, go for a site that gives you more freedom and better search quality, like Match or Yahoo. And if you don’t want to pay for it, stick to MySpace."
If you want the edge with online dating, like a total system with secret techniques and results based on experience from experts, check out David Deangelo's "Meeting Women Online" DVD set. Really awesome stuff.
Donovan
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posted by Donovan at 11:33 AM Dating Advice for Men
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Totally agree about eharmony. It does suck. You get profiles of potential matches sent to you pretty regularly. The problem is that only about 2 out of the 10 have photos.
I know there are guys who have systems and even success with online dating sites, but honestly?
They all suck. Fucking underhanded schemes to keep siphoning money from guys who aren't quite ready to take the chance in real life. Both Match.com and Yahoo settled suits that accused them of seeding results with fake hot girl photos and fake profiles.
IMO, take the money, time and effort you would put in to online dating, and invest it instead in ANY program that helps you meet and get girls in real life. It's just smarter business.
those dating sites are sort of scary. but tell me about craigslist. is there anything good there?
Has anybody written a program that does your email correspondence for you so you don't have to do anything until you show up for the date?
I've been checking out a number of dating sites, and yeah, most of them really suck. Here's what I can tell you:
PAY SITES:
theonion.com's personals aren't too bad, though unless you pay to become a silver or gold member, you can only see the default photo of the listings. You can earn 'points' to email other members there for free, mostly by uploading more photos of yourself, up to I think 4 free emails worth - the nice thing, though, is that people can reply to you for free, and as long as you keep replying back and forth on the same thread, you only actually pay for the first email. Once you run out of points, you can buy more - it ends up costing about $1.00 per initial email, which isn't too bad, if you don't pay to become a member, which is actually pretty expensive. Unfortunately, I kinda get the feeling that for anyplace except really big cities, the dating pools on it are kinda small. Oh, by the way, theonion.com's personals are exactly the same as those on nerve.com and bitch.com and a few other sort of 'hip' sites. It's run by a company called FastCupid.
mate1.com/match.com/true.com - these all totally suck ass. In my experience, nearly all the women on them are incredibly unappealing in many ways. Expensive sites and totally worthless.
yahoo personals - somehow it seems maybe a *little* better than those above, but not by much. Seems to have at least maybe a few more appealing women, but really - when you get right down to it, it sucks.
adultfriendfinder.com - this is also run by fastcupid, and pretty much seems to be for people who are *desperate* to have sex. But people also actually seem to make friends there, and there does kind of seem to be a sort of 'community' vibe to it. I met kind of a cool girl on it, but we never ended up hooking up, mostly because it turned out she had some physical handicaps that made it difficult for her to get around, but she was fun to IM with anyway. The surprising thing is, adultfriendfinder is actually quite a bit cheaper to subscribe to than theonion.com's membership prices, and you can email as much as you want on the basic membership level. Not a bad deal, but still I think it's sorta limited by the pool of people on there, which will vary by area, of course. I only subscribed to it for a month, and then let it lapse.
FREE SITES:
plentyoffish.com - this is kind of a weird site. it also kind of has a 'community' vibe to it, and they organize a lot of local meet-ups and things, but I've never attended any. Why? Because just about all the people on it, in my area anyway, are pretty hideous looking. I chatted briefly with a couple of women from it, but mostly couldn't find much of interest there. I'm sure it would depend on your locality, but it's totally free, so may be worth checking out.
myspace.com - not really a dating site, but lots of people use it like one. The upside is that *soooo* many people have myspace accounts. The downside is that 99% of people on MySpace are total flakes. But it's possible to meet some cute girls here, I've met 3 or 4 from here.
and now, my very favorite dating site of all, by far the very best, IMHO:
okcupid.com - they're mostly famous for their goofy personality quizzes, but it's a really pretty cool dating site too. You answer hundreds and hudreds of interesting survey-type questions about various things, and they determine various things about your personality, and then match you up with people in your area (or around the world) who match up to your survey questions. It's pretty cool, and as far as I can tell, fairly accurate. What's kinda funny is both me and my ex-girlfriend (who is now just a really good friend) answered a bunch of questions, and we ended up getting like a 94% match with each other, which is really pretty incredibly high of a match, so I figure it knows what it's talking about. There's *lots* of women on it, and pretty cool, interesting ones too - and more nice looking women on it than any other site I've seen so far too. And it's all totally free, no charges whatsoever for anything - definitely check it out. And no, I don't work for them either.
good luck!
JC
Lots of trolls and gay guys collecting pics on CL. Often you'll see the same posts and photos in several cities on the same day. But sometimes the same photos show up on women seeking women and women seeking men within the same city, which opens up a whole new realm of possibilities.
Starting a conversation with someone on Rants and Raves is generally more productive than one of the romance sites.
JC dude, you rock hard. thanks for the heads up on OKCupid. I signed up and like it so far.
As far as CL goes, I've met several really cute women from there, so it is possible. I even met my last GF from there.
The upside of CL is that it's free, you don't have to fill out any gay bios or questionnaires, and you can pretty much write whatever you want in your post as long as you don't violate their terms about content.
The downside to it is that, being a free site, there are a lot of flakes and fakes out there, so be prepared for some frustration on that end.
All you really have to do on CL is be creative and persistent. CREATIVITY is really important as most m4w ads start to look the same over time. And be PERSISTENT, too. Test different ads at different times of day to see when people are on. I've personally found that if you post in the morning of a weekday you get the most response, because people cruise CL while they're bored at work, as they can't cruise other dating sites for fear of getting caught. Sunday morning is a close second.
Hope this helps, and write if you want to know more.
Tony M.
What is CL??
Craig's List.
T
Faceparty.com can also be a good place to pick up HBs
Hmmm... I think I need to get back out there and test this online stuff again just to know what's out there and help me with my coaching.
Thanks for the input, guys.
I disagree on the Myspace thing. A good thing Myspace has going for it is that you can see when a person last logged on, and this makes flaking a bit harder.
I started reading PUA stuff about 8 months ago. I was using Match, but it was sucking ass. I got one date (psycho) and chicks that flaked many times. Now I'm using Myspace. I'm talking to 6 or 7 chicks at once currently, got one phone #, and its only been a month, maybe even less!. It took me three months of bullshit and money on Match to get what I find alot easier on Myspace. I'm not only going to use Myspace though, but Free sites like Myspace, Friendster, even emailing random chicks from Yahoo searches (not personals) as far as Yahoo messenger, or even Aol messenger. It clicked after I started listening to alot of Deangelo, in all honesty. Why pay for something that is so unreliable? Now that it is free for me, I am more successful, oh the irony, but not really. I really believe that my online sarging success is achievable, because the results, though small, are making me believe that the whole thing is worth it. Anyway, advice: don't ever pay for something you can get for free, and Myspace and other sites allow you to not spend a damn red cent on sarging online.
And as for the person who asked for an "automated" program, dude, just please get a clue..Its taking me alot of practice (Daily sometimes) to learn what to do and say but its working a lot better than it was..I was doing the non recommended dumb AFC shit like "winks" before. No wonder I was sucking ass at it! I decided to put myself in a frame of mind where I didn't give a shit, just say what comes to mind (but be congruent, this is what was missing before) and the results are actually scaring my busy ass! I don't have time to date all these chicks, but its something I dedicated my life to for the time being, (Sarging in general, not just online), and my band is on the rocks so I have the time to do all this shit now.
I agree about the online dating sites. They exist for one purpose only: MONEY.
Same as the PUA guys in some ways, but those guys can help you way more permanently than paying for some online dating site. I thank Ross, Neil, Wayne, Mystery (though I'm not into the same type as he), and David D for helping me get on the right path with this. Its going to take me by my own personal estimate, 2 or 3 years to fix this shit, but at least I'll be 31 or 32 "Getting it" instead of a 40 year old bachelor depressed on my ass without dates, or divorced from some nagging cow.
A friend of mine was recently divorced and, after getting over the immediate trauma of the divorce, decided to join the dating world again. He had never tried any computer dating services but he is the adventurous type so he thought he would give it a try. He looked around the net and eventually decided to try online4love.com. He is an insurance agent, and a pretty successful one at that, so he had a pretty good profile in online4love.com. He lives in Southern California, drives a BMW and makes more than $100,000 per year.
Overall, he gave online4love.com a good review. He said that he had at least half a dozen different dates in the first six months of his subscription to online4love.com. He said that all the women he found were in the same general situation as he was -- middle-aged and generally upper class. He also said that they generally had the same basic interests that he did -- a non-permanent relationship, usually including sex.
He said that the results from http://www.online4love.com were good enough that he renewed his subscription for an additional year. In fact, the results were so good that he wound up canceling his subscription.
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