8.18.2006posted by Donovan at 4:36 PM
Let me start by telling you, you 'da man! I really got to hand it to you, your stuff has given me confidence I've never had before, and I'm just trying to absorb as much of it into my head as possible. I really want to thank you for being able to share this stuff with guys like me and not keeping it to yourself.
There's just one thing wrong with your material: its way TOO CHEAP!!! Seriously Dave, I think WE'RE ripping YOU off! Thanks to you, I started to apply the Cocky and Funny in chatting rooms and in the real world, and it is a hell of a lot better than the Mr. Nice guy act. However, I use emails and chat to practice my Cocky and Funny and it is improving. For example, I have one trick I use and it works on a girl whether she's younger, older, or the same age as me.
I asked one girl her age, and she turned out to be as old as me, 21. I then replied by telling her "ahh forget it, your too young for me" I assume that this girl wasnt used to a rejection like this and she was intent on knowing how old I was. I told her that I was also 21, and she reacted like most girls do at this part, by laughing and turning into a stuck up and asking me how she could possibly be too young for me. I then respond saying something like "I guess your right, its not your age, you just wouldn't be able to handle me," then she reacts like most girls do at this point, continuing to be even more stuck up and laugh sarcastically, while I tell her that Ill give her a chance because she wants it so much, and she has 2 minutes to convince me she can handle me. Now this is a great conversation starter, and while she argues the fact that she can handle me, I occasionally send her teasing comments like, "honey, your wasting my time" or "Why are u not entertaining me" or ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz". I kind of understood how being Cocky works, and if the girl really meant the insults she said to me at first, she still wouldn't be talking to me, right?
After doing this to one particular girl, who turned out to be hot as hell from a pic she sent me, she completely forgot about being stuck up and told me "ok, Im sorry, lets start over" this is when I realized I had her in my grasp and I continued being Cocky but turned it down a notch, was this the right thing to do? Around the end I asked her for her email and she replied by telling me she cancelled it yesterday, a terrible excuse. I persisted and said "yeah sure, just type it down,
it'll be ok." she stuck to her story and I gave up and gave her my email which she "supposedly" wrote down. Now I know I probably shouldn't of backed down on her email, but I thought the conversation was going so great she would actually want me to
have her email. Is there something I did wrong for her to refuse giving it to me, and what other ways could I make a girl give me her phone # and/or email? Also, you stress how you should never answer a girls question directly, to leave her unsure. This happens to be my weakness and I would appreciate a few tips on this too.
Thanks for everything Dave, your reply would really mean a lot. W.C.
Great story... and great job.
One thing you have to remember about chat rooms and online IM sessions is that they're great PRACTICE.
Now, I've met some UNBELIEVABLE women on the internet... so don't get me wrong here.
But don't worry too much about any particular girl... or any particular situation.
She could have had a boyfriend, or even a husband... and was just online because she was bored... or any of 100 other scenarios.
When something like this happens, just move on.
The point is that you're using the Internet for a GREAT "practice environment", and you're training your mind to be Cocky & Funny in the moment... which begins to translate into the REAL world as you do it.
To answer your question about how to get a girl to give you her email address and/or number, just do more of what you're already doing...
Keep throwing down the challenges...
Write back and say, "Yeah, you're probably not that adventurous".
She'll say, "Yes I am!"
Then say, "Well, if you were then you would have asked me for my number and called me already. But you're not. So you didn't...."
Keep this up until she asks for YOUR number.
Then, as soon as you hit the "send" button, IM her again quickly to say, "I don't hear my phone ringing! Hurry up!"
You'll love the results you get from this kind of thing.
But be careful. And get LOTS of CURRENT pictures. Take it from someone who knows... lol... don't just take her word for it.
Hey Dave man!!!!
I'm taking your advice and not being an ass kisser, so I won't say how much your book rules (even though it does). I'm seeing 2 girls and potentially 3, but I have some questions. First off, any advice when dealing with a really shy woman? It's tough to do some of the things like the kiss test when they're timid (but oh so cute). Second, the potential one I'm kind of interested in, but definitely not long-term, and I think she knows that, but I'd like to get to know her and have a little fun...any words of wisdom? Third, this may be covered in the book and I haven't
gotten to that chapter yet, but any style advice when it comes to clothing? I'm clueless there. Thanks in advance dude!
I'll answer them in reverse.
Yes, style advice is in the book. Turn to pages 33 and 34. Get the eBook here.
To contestant number 2, just keep on doing what you're doing. Women usually know what's going on, and she'll start making relationship noises if she really wants one. Until then, keep doing what's working.
And about the oh-so-cute shy girls: I know, I know... but you must remember that if you're the one that brings the shy girl out of her shell, she's probably going to want to marry you... and if she's not very experienced with guys, you might mess with her head too much. Do the right thing.
I was just wondering if you think it's a good idea to call a woman before a date to confirm or should I just show up at her doorstep and hope shes there? A while ago I had a date with a woman and I didn't call before I left to pick her up then when I got to her house she wasn't there. Do you call before the date to confirm?
Z. >From Florida.
You know, it's been so many years since I've gone out to a woman's house and picked her up for a first date, I can't even remember.
I recommend that you DO NOT do something expensive and typical like going and picking a woman up, taking her to dinner, etc. for a first date.
1) Have her come to your place, and leave for a cup of tea from there.
2) Meet her at a coffee shop that's CLOSE to your place, and if she flakes out, you can still enjoy yourself and you're not far from home.
Another rule of thumb I have is to not make a date too far in advance.
I've found that often times, you can call a woman up and say, "Let's go get a cup of coffee RIGHT NOW".
It's rare that I would ever make plans more than a day in advance... this also helps prevent flaking.
You DVD program has made me get up from the sofa and do something about my love life. No real success yet but I can now see beyond my fears and actually approach women.
As you recommended I started using the Internet as A 'women simulator', it's great and I think I'm doing fine with the cocky and funny stuff. For example, I call my self "too witty for you" and in my description I write "don't please don't... well
OK - are you cute?" and it works :-) Sadly, I can't give example from the chats since they are in Hebrew but you know... it's even funnier in Hebrew.
My question is simple: you said to move quickly from the chat to the phone. Well, do you have a "3 minute phone technique" adopted for the chats? (the problem is that I can't say something like "I going back to my friends" like I do in a bar).
U.W. from Israel.
Maybe you can work with me soon on the "Ultimate Comprehensive Guide To Cocky & Funny Online Chat In Hebrew".
I answered this question above, but loved your email so I had to include it.
When you're online, you have to REALLY go the extra mile and EXXXXXAGGGGERATE everything.
You can't just say "You seem cool, let's talk sometime".
You have to say "You're a pain. I'll bet you can't keep this up live on a telephone. You're probably too much of a scaredy-cat to even TRY it..."
Work it. Try things. You'll find that these kinds of challenges work VERY well online.
And if you really want to learn how to write a great online profile, flirt with women online, and get women to give you their numbers more often... then you need to check THIS out:
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